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Windows Installer .msi and display language detection/determination...

Hi all,

I was wondering how the runtime language is determined when running and .msi, NOT a Setup.exe with the language selection dialog.

For example, my default language is set as English. However, when launching the .msi on a German OS, the internal dialogs (not Windows Installer processing messages) display in German. I thought, since there is no language selection the default language would display, English. I am just executing the .msi by double clicking and NOT firing via command line with the passage of a language transform parameter.

My language transforms are embedded and not external .mst files if that makes a difference.

I'm trying to figure out how the displayed language is chosen as I'm trying to troubleshoot an issue on a German OS and, well, without knowing the language, its kind of tough. I guess I could pass English as the language, but that might produce different results seen in the field (executing from command line with no transform argurment (language) specified.

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  • Here's what appears to be happening...

    We have an .msi that I fire off and the dialogs are displayed in German on that OS language without passing a TRANSFORMS parameter to it. We then install another .msi and attempt to launch that via a custom action .exe. There, we pass the language from the calling .msi. When the secondary .msi runs I get the following in German...

    Error in the application of transforms. Make sure that the specificed transformation paths are valid.

    I can take the same secondary .msi and use the calling command line to display the different supported languages on an English OS.

    msiexec /i "c:\My\Path\To\Test.msi" TRANSFORMS=:1031

    On an English OS I can display German dialog verbiage using the above command line, but the same does not work on a German OS.

    Are the command lines different for passing Transforms on different language OSs? - Superfreak3 8 years ago
  • Why or how does Windows Installer recognize and apply the embedded transform if the .msi is launched directly, but errors when calling the embedded transform via the command line.

    I could call the secondary .msi directly from my custom action without passing the language transform parameter and I believe that would work. However, there may be instances where the user would like to launch these installers in a language foreign to the operating system. Why can this not be done via the command line as can be done on my English OS? I don't have any issue calling all the languages from the command line on that OS. - Superfreak3 8 years ago
  • Log from command line attempt to apply the German transform...

    === Verbose logging started: 30.11.2016 09:59:59 Build type: SHIP UNICODE 5.00.7601.00 Calling process: C:\Windows\system32\msiexec.exe ===
    MSI (c) (A4:94) [09:59:59:165]: Font created. Charset: Req=0, Ret=0, Font: Req=MS Shell Dlg, Ret=MS Shell Dlg

    MSI (c) (A4:94) [09:59:59:165]: Font created. Charset: Req=0, Ret=0, Font: Req=MS Shell Dlg, Ret=MS Shell Dlg

    MSI (c) (A4:68) [09:59:59:165]: Resetting cached policy values
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [09:59:59:165]: Machine policy value 'Debug' is 0
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [09:59:59:165]: ******* RunEngine:
    ******* Product: c:\MyAppclientinstaller.msi
    ******* Action:
    ******* CommandLine: **********
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [09:59:59:212]: Machine policy value 'DisableUserInstalls' is 0
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [09:59:59:228]: Note: 1: 1402 2: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer 3: 2
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [09:59:59:228]: SOFTWARE RESTRICTION POLICY: Verifying package --> 'c:\MyAppclientinstaller.msi' against software restriction policy
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [09:59:59:228]: SOFTWARE RESTRICTION POLICY: c:\MyAppclientinstaller.msi has a digital signature
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:344]: SOFTWARE RESTRICTION POLICY: c:\MyAppclientinstaller.msi is permitted to run at the 'unrestricted' authorization level.
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:360]: Cloaking enabled.
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:360]: Attempting to enable all disabled privileges before calling Install on Server
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:376]: End dialog not enabled
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:376]: Original package ==> c:\MyAppclientinstaller.msi
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:376]: Package we're running from ==> c:\MyAppclientinstaller.msi
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: APPCOMPAT: Compatibility mode property overrides found.
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: APPCOMPAT: looking for appcompat database entry with ProductCode '{7ED0ECC8-5CD3-4A4A-BEFA-DCD0423B1800}'.
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: APPCOMPAT: no matching ProductCode found in database.
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: MSCOREE not loaded loading copy from system32
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Machine policy value 'TransformsSecure' is 0
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: User policy value 'TransformsAtSource' is 0
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Machine policy value 'DisablePatch' is 0
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Machine policy value 'AllowLockdownPatch' is 0
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Machine policy value 'DisableLUAPatching' is 0
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Machine policy value 'DisableFlyWeightPatching' is 0
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Looking for storage transform: 1031
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Patch 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2205 2: 3: PatchPackage
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: _Tables 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: _Columns 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Media 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: File 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: TRANSFORM: 'PatchPackage' table is missing or empty. No pre-transform fixup necessary.
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: TRANSFORM: Applying regular transform to database.
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: _Tables 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: _Columns 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: AdminExecuteSequence 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Condition 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: AdminUISequence 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: AdvtExecuteSequence 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: AdvtUISequence 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: AppSearch 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Binary 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: File 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: CheckBox 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Class 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Component 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Icon 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: ProgId 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: ComboBox 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: ControlCondition 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: ControlEvent 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: CreateFolder 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: CustomAction 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: DuplicateFile 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: ModuleSignature 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: EventMapping 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Extension 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: FeatureComponents 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Font 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: IniFile 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: InstallExecuteSequence 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: InstallUISequence 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: ListBox 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: ListView 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Media 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: ModuleComponents 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: MsiAssembly 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: MsiAssemblyName 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: MsiFileHash 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Patch 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Registry 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: RegLocator 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: RemoveFile 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Signature 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: TextStyle 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Upgrade 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: Verb 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: _Validation 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: ISComponentExtended 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: ISCustomActionReference 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: ISSearchReplace 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: ISSearchReplaceSet 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: MsiSFCBypass 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: SxsMsmGenComponents 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: _MsiPatchTransformView 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: #_BaselineCost 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: #_BaselineFile 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: #_BaselineData 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: #_PatchCache 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: MsiPatchCertificate 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: ISDRMFileAttribute 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: ISDRMLicense 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2262 2: MsiDigitalCertificate 3: -2147287038
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Looking for storage transform: 1031
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 2203 2: 1031 3: -2147287035
    DEBUG: Error 2203: Database: 1031. Cannot open database file. System error -2147287035
    1: 2203 2: 1031 3: -2147287035
    Fehler bei der Übernahme der Transformationspakete. Stellen Sie sicher, dass die Transformationspfade gültig sind.
    1031
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Note: 1: 1708
    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Produkt: MyComp MyApp 2017 Client Service Pack 1 -- Installation fehlgeschlagen.

    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: Das Produkt wurde durch Windows Installer installiert. Produktname: MyComp MyApp 2017 Client Service Pack 1. Produktversion: 10.1.714. Produktsprache: 1031. Hersteller: Ihr Firmenname. Erfolg- bzw. Fehlerstatus der Installation: 1624.

    MSI (c) (A4:68) [10:00:04:391]: MainEngineThread is returning 1624
    === Verbose logging stopped: 30.11.2016 10:00:04 === - Superfreak3 8 years ago
  • Again, works fine if I double click to execute the .msi package and command line works on English OS, but not on German and Italian (may be all non-English OSs). - Superfreak3 8 years ago
  • I think I may have found the answer...


    http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/single-msi-file-seems-to-need-1033-mst-transform-file-td3261535.html


    The only problem is that in the Template Summary property, setting the Language to 0 (language neutral), I thought I ran into problems of some sort having 0 in there. - Superfreak3 8 years ago
  • So I dug around and found my issues with having 0 mentioned as part of the Template summary property...

    http://forum.installsite.net/index.php?showtopic=20984

    https://community.flexerasoftware.com/showthread.php?201377-Major-Upgrade-Not-Working

    I think what I have to try is my current blank upgrade table setting with 0 in the template summary property. Hopefully major upgrades will work and I will be able to call specific foreign language transforms. - Superfreak3 8 years ago

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